Kings of the North

Doug Lesmerises and Bill Landis discuss college football's best Northern teams and topics. Get the latest news and analysis on teams such as Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Notre Dame, Nebraska, and more every week.

Recent Episodes
  • Ohio State and secrets to WR success | Nico Iamaleava -- Who should take him? | P.J. Fleck interview
    Apr 14, 2025 – 01:48:33
  • College Football Playoff locks and dark horses: Notre Dame? Utah? | Ohio State wraps up 5-star WR
    Apr 2, 2025 – 01:49:12
  • College football Southern frauds from Georgia to LSU to USC to Miami | Northern CFB bracket champ
    Apr 1, 2025 – 01:45:47
  • Spring football updates around The North | Young Oregon stars | Most Important Defensive Players
    Mar 26, 2025 – 01:41:38
  • Penn State's title hopes all on James Franklin? | North coaching bracket | Michigan, Georgia issues
    Mar 25, 2025 – 02:01:38
  • College Football coach 5-year plan | Jeremiah Smith, Nick Singleton, Dane Key and offensive stars
    Mar 20, 2025 – 01:53:37
  • Best quarterback bracket | Saving spring football | Deion's big idea | Solving AD controversies
    Mar 18, 2025 – 01:51:04
  • Early college football recruiting winners | Clemson invasion | All 28 Northern team win totals
    Mar 12, 2025 – 01:44:20
  • Will Eddie George change Bowling Green and the MAC? | Football trades for Michigan, Iowa, Pitt, etc.
    Mar 10, 2025 – 01:38:06
  • College Football Playoff 2025 projections, from Penn State and BYU to Michigan and South Carolina
    Mar 5, 2025 – 01:36:21
  • College football spring breakouts at Penn State, Maryland, Oregon, Nebraska, Syracuse, Kansas & more
    Mar 3, 2025 – 01:26:44
  • College football playoff seeding compromise? | Northern teams stacked with most returning production
    Feb 26, 2025 – 01:26:58
  • Texas in the Big Ten | No 12-team CFB Playoff | Brian Kelly still at Notre Dame | Change One Thing
    Feb 25, 2025 – 01:46:50
  • Will College Football Playoff seeding change? | Six true title contenders? | Most annoying coaches
    Feb 20, 2025 – 01:32:59
  • College football's best quarterbacks for 2025 | Is Big Ten-SEC playoff control bad for CFB?
    Feb 18, 2025 – 02:05:17
  • Ohio State hires Matt Patricia | Notre Dame, Penn State, OSU, Oregon -- Who will win more games?
    Feb 12, 2025 – 01:43:26
  • Ultimate Northern Schedule: Ohio State to BYU to Boston College | Notre Dame takes Penn State coach
    Feb 10, 2025 – 01:41:06
  • Ohio State promoting Brian Hartline? | How to hire a CFB coordinator | Big 12 schedule bangers
    Feb 5, 2025 – 01:49:13
  • Chip Kelly leaves Ohio State | Nebraska cancels spring game? | All-North stars | Cram-O-Meter Review
    Feb 3, 2025 – 01:45:31
  • Comparing Ohio State & Michigan Natty teams | Reviewing Oregon, Illinois, Iowa State, Indiana & more
    Jan 30, 2025 – 01:36:09
  • Michigan fights back on Connor Stalions allegations | Reviews of Nebraska, Kansas State, Pitt & more
    Jan 29, 2025 – 01:53:24
  • Rating the 2024 CFB season | Reviews for Michigan, Washington, Wisconsin, etc | ACC schedule bangers
    Jan 28, 2025 – 01:34:46
  • Jim Knowles from Ohio State to Penn State | North coordinator moves for Washington, Nebraska & more
    Jan 27, 2025 – 01:51:11
  • Ohio State beats Notre Dame: National Championship postgame reaction as the Buckeyes are CFB kings
    Jan 21, 2025 – 01:37:34
  • Ohio State-Notre Dame final National Championship thoughts, picks and capes
    Jan 20, 2025 – 00:46:55
  • Ohio State-Notre Dame College Football National Championship Picks and Preview: Buckeyes or Irish?
    Jan 19, 2025 – 01:37:28
  • College Football Playoff National Championship Game: News and Vibes from Ohio State and Notre Dame
    Jan 18, 2025 – 01:36:48
  • Why Ryan Day and Marcus Freeman are winning | Indiana center Mike Katic breaks down Buckeyes & Irish
    Jan 17, 2025 – 01:44:10
  • How Ohio State and Notre Dame got here | Key moves that pushed Buckeyes and Irish to the title game
    Jan 16, 2025 – 01:47:22
  • College Football Playoff Teams -- Who's Next in The North? From Nebraska to Illinois to Utah
    Jan 15, 2025 – 01:40:38
  • College football domination: 10 reasons the North took over the sport | South Cram-O-Meter
    Jan 14, 2025 – 01:34:31
  • Ohio State vs. Texas Instant Reaction: Cotton Bowl win sends Buckeyes to national championship game
    Jan 11, 2025 – 01:14:08
  • Ohio State-Texas great game potential | How will Notre Dame handle national championship game?
    Jan 10, 2025 – 01:26:55
  • Penn State vs. Notre Dame Instant Reaction: Live from the Orange Bowl, Northern showdown breakdown
    Jan 10, 2025 – 01:11:32
  • Ohio State-Texas Cotton Bowl Picks: Will the Buckeyes dominate this College Football Playoff semi?
    Jan 9, 2025 – 01:43:00
  • Picks for Notre Dame-Penn State Orange Bowl: Preview live at the College Football Playoff semifinal
    Jan 8, 2025 – 01:33:43
  • Is Southern college football in trouble? | Orange Bowl/Cotton Bowl live info & vibes | Portal action
    Jan 8, 2025 – 01:37:23
  • How Ohio State, Notre Dame & Penn State built championship rosters | North dominates South in bowls
    Jan 6, 2025 – 01:38:47
  • Notre Dame vs. Georgia Instant Reaction: Notre Dame wins 23-10 to advance to playoff semifinal
    Jan 3, 2025 – 00:29:04
  • Ohio State vs. Oregon Instant Reaction: Buckeyes dominate Rose Bowl to advance to playoff semifinal
    Jan 2, 2025 – 01:34:17
  • Penn State vs. Boise State Instant Reaction: PSU punches ticket to College Football Playoff semis
    Jan 1, 2025 – 00:41:56
  • Oregon-Ohio State Preview and Picks for the Rose Bowl College Football Playoff Quarterfinal
    Dec 31, 2024 – 01:16:16
  • Notre Dame-Georgia Preview and Picks for the Sugar Bowl College Football Playoff Quarterfinal
    Dec 31, 2024 – 01:01:55
  • College Football Playoff Quarterfinal Best Bets on Ohio State, Notre Dame, Penn State and Oregon
    Dec 30, 2024 – 00:31:46
  • Ohio State-Oregon Rose Bowl, Notre Dame-Georgia Sugar Bowl Live Reports | Penn State-Boise Breakdown
    Dec 30, 2024 – 01:38:15
  • Transfer Portal Action from Nebraska, Michigan and Notre Dame to Kansas, Ohio State and Colorado
    Dec 26, 2024 – 01:41:24
  • Reseeding The College Football Playoff | South Cram-o-Meter | Does The North have the 4 Best Teams?
    Dec 23, 2024 – 01:48:12
  • Ohio State -Tennessee College Football Playoff reaction | Penn State dominates SMU in State College
    Dec 22, 2024 – 01:22:47
  • Notre Dame beats Indiana | Live KOTN reaction in South Bend to the 12-team College Football Playoff
    Dec 21, 2024 – 00:55:07
  • College Football Playoff Bets on Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Indiana, Clemson and more
    Dec 20, 2024 – 00:41:37
Recent Reviews
  • Rizzo06
    Penn St
    Great job overall. Two Pennsylvania born beat writers are talking about Penn St way too much.
  • Mike from SLO
    The best college football show
    The best college football show: Smart, funny and scary-bad diets.
  • glimadoll
    Great podcast!
    I like the repartee between Bill and Doug. Lots of interesting info!
  • Chazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
    Lineman
    Did anyone else notice bill crying on the last pod?
  • AFA26
    Solid CFB pod
    Huge fan of Doug, his energy and passion for this topic is infectious. Bill is a good writer, no doubt about it, but his Ohio state bias can be a bit much at times.
  • Matt 5237
    Hot trash
    Stop yelling! Doug is trash. His takes are trash. Bill just laughs at trash. It reflects the decadence of Western Civilization that Doug is paid for this “work”. And he’s crying again.
  • Utahjoey
    Anyone else think that was a little weird…
    When Doug got teary-eyed over northern teams doing well in the playoffs?
  • McNutt for Heisman
    Came skeptically
    Stayed because it’s a really solid show with good interviews.
  • adpatterson19
    Cram It!
    This is the content that has been missing for the last decade! First Doug and Bill are at the top of their profession. Even when I disagree with them, at least their takes are based on reality and data not just empty trolling like ES(ec)PN. If you want a high quality national show that is in opposition to ES(ec)PN and the obnoxious south this is a must listen or YouTube watch! Finally a place that calls the south out for their stupidity, puts ES(ec)PN on blast for their obvious bias, and celebrates football outside the south! Great guests too from players and coaches to Steven Godfrey and Dan Wetzel!
  • dmpforyouandme
    Doug: a fine wine
    I’ve been listen to Doug and bill for years in various spaces. Like a fine wine, I feel like they’ve aged to perfection as they’ve steadily improved over time. KOTN is the perfect blend of advanced analytics, in depth understanding of the game, rational takes and irrational rants. This is the best football listen on the market. I love the change many years ago to add nonfootball content to the end, giving the listener the choice to engage or not.
  • Good ol’ no eyes
    Best podcast for the north
    Colorado: The only team in CFB history that can have the worst run game in the FBS and still be considered “a complete team”. This is a good podcast, but let’s be consistent about how we view teams.
  • perrydre
    The South Can Cram It!
    A must listen every day! Very informative about Northern football. Perfect amount of SECtion talk. Duel Swords and a dragon statue! Doug being semi yo very abrasive at points! 5 stars!
  • Steensn
    Favorite Football Podcast
    Never miss an episode!
  • Dakota Benson
    love these guys but…
    So unbelievably tired of the Georgia/SEC obsession. Can we talk about other teams? Like… northern teams? I don’t listen to “southern biased national media” so I end up skipping through a bunch of this show that only reacts to “southern biased national media.” Can we get a timestamp for when you talk about northern teams and not the SEC? I’m at least ten minutes into this week’s Saturday night show and you haven’t talked about anyone but Georgia and Miami. I mean the description for the episode starts talking about Georgia and Miami. I used to lean on Buckeyetalk and The Podcast to get me through my commute to and from work. I’ve been so disappointed this year with how much the show talks about Georgia and “the south.” Doesn’t a show called Kings of the North, that talks about Georgia more than any other team, miss the mark? I’m bummed about it because Doug and Bill have been my absolute favorites covering OSU, but KOTN is really missing the mark for me this year.
  • Caleb Ardle
    I hate the south
    This show is great! I followed Doug from his previous ventures and think even though he’s a bit kooky at times he is one of my favorite sports personalities to listen to/watch! Kings of the North allows him to fully go Lesmerises-mode more than ever before, which makes it super fun and interesting. The biggest thing this show has done for me is to make me hate the south. Doug has a way with words I guess because now I go around talking to my friends about how pretty much every southern team is a fraud and the north rules football. I think Doug is rubbing off on me and I’m not quite sure if that is a good or bad thing yet. Go North!
  • Alden Guy
    Informative and a lot of fun
    Doug and Bill do a great job highlighting northern football and the incredible bias by the media, poll voters and others against northern football and for southern football. They picked an amazing season with very validating performances on the field to make his case. The south can cram it!
  • pjprenger
    For the North!
    Entertaining show, great perspective.
  • Beegerson
    Love the show
    Sorry I can’t tune in on most Saturday nights - but it’s my first listen Sunday morning on this platform
  • Flying Buckeye
    Best CFB Show!!
    Doug and Bill carry the sword for northern football! They are fighting against the SEC bias in the mainstream media and have great insight on the college football landscape. I can’t get enough “Whatcha”!
  • GSTitan
    The podcast that saved me
    For years, I wondered aimlessly and helplessly to doctors offices, therapist chairs, in and out of the love one’s arms. No one could help me. I had an incurable condition. A terminal disease. TheSouthCanCramIttosis. But this show—with its insights, analysis, and commentary on northern college football and its propensity to tell the South to cram it—saved me. In all seriousness, I look forward to the show daily. I’m excited to see its continued growth as the premiere college football show of the North.
  • Darth MC
    The best college football podcast
    I listen to every podcast Doug and Bill do. They cover great topics and explain why they think what they think. The observations are true and thought provoking.
  • TG52531523
    Finally…No more SEC bias
    Love listening to a college football podcast without SEC bias. At this point it’s pathetic how lazy the analysis is on other shows claiming that overrated southern teams like ole miss, Missouri, and lsu are legitimate national title contenders. We love college football and want to hear more about the rest of the country. It’s made watching college football way more fun when you know more about the chaotic Big 12 and middle of the pack big 10 teams like Illinois, Nebraska, and Washington. I used to listen to an OSU podcast Doug was on but like this one way better talking about the full landscape of college football vs a full hour talking about OSU’s 3rd string LBs.
  • JScottAZ
    Took over my podcast feed
    You’ll want to listen to Kings of the North for three reasons. 1. Smart football analysis. 2. Random off the cuff comments and tangents that will make you laugh. 3. It will balance out what you hear or read from ESPN. Doug (a Northwestern grad) and Bill (Penn State grad) covered Ohio State before starting this show. Well, Doug also covered the Cleveland Browns too. They call out where they were wrong, regularly talk about all 28 teams in what they define as the north of college football, most of the Big 10, 1/2 of Big 12, the northern ACC teams and bring in interesting guests. You’ll be interested in and informed about more games on Saturdays as a result. Give it a listen. It took over my podcast feed. Keep up the good work! Joel in Phoenix
  • Alicia724
    I Hate the SEC
    I was born in Cleveland, raised just north of Pittsburgh, and now live about 15 minutes away from UGA. The way Doug talks about SEC fans is perfection. Love the show.
  • Tian 785
    “I intend to make Georgia howl.” W.T. Sherman
    Finally somewhere that promotes the North like so many pods do for the south. It’s made watching ball more enjoyable because I know more about Northern teams and I care more if they win. - Great mix of guests. - Variety of content- Rankings, analysis, coach/player interviews, betting. - Great hosts. Doug and Landis do a great job.
  • mah2325
    Great show
    My go to podcast to stay up today on college football. Keep up the great work!
  • Frank Outback
    The North!!
    I’m watching Rutgers run out the clock versus Virginia Tech, pumping my fist for another Northern victory. Been listening to these guys for years as a Buckeyes/Buckeye Talk fan. Love the show, love the idea.
  • Davybbqq
    Chipotle
    Great show. Enjoy the topic. I firmly agree with Mike that chipotle is much better than moe’s. Keep up the great work.
  • #1 (cleveland) fan
    Love it
    Great show! Love the info and doing it in a fun way!!!
  • amoats22
    Love Doug
    Doug has always been my favorite Ohio st reporter. Not afraid to ask the tough questions. Great podcast with great insight.
  • ScubaSteve0004
    Will listen, still skeptical
    Love Doug and Bill from the days with Ari at Cleveland.com. I’m still a little skeptical of this “northern” football theme gaining traction but Doug and Bill have gained my trust over the years to keep my perspective in check as an OSU fan and also to teach me a few things about the broader scope of college football. 5 stars! Hope it catches on!
  • Ian2424
    Solid potential
    I was very into the show at first but increasingly, it seems to be pro-North, anti-Michigan. While the rest of the CFB is moving on and giving Michigan credit for its success, these guys seem to take every opportunity available to question whether the Stalions harebrained scheme was responsible for Michigan’s success. Those that know ball know that sign stealing is a marginal advantage and sending your mom to record signs at games is marginal stacked upon marginal. But Doug postulates that Michigan beating OSU by 15 and 22 in back to back years was because of Stalions’ nonsense. I don’t even think it’s intentional but these guys are based in Columbus so it’s hard to filter out all the noise they must get.
  • Morris826
    Great show. Great hosts. Great conversations. Too big of a scope
    Growing up in the Columbus area and moving away, I listened to Bill and Doug’s work in other forums. Hating the SEC, I was excited to have people bring pride to the north. I think they do great and I love the podcast and will continue to listen. My feedback though is I think the scope of teams is just too large. I am a football/sports fan mainly focusing on Ohio State. I love hearing the different perspectives of teams that aren’t as nationally recognized and in the SEC. However, some teams I just don’t care about because they’re not relevant enough to me. Finebaum, while being a southern guy, I still think of SEC dominated. If the SEC got UW and OU, he would be hyping them up because of conference alignment even though they’re northern states. My point is, I think KOTN needs to be big ten focused, at least at the beginning. While I thought the Kansas/Kanas State pod was well done, I found myself not caring because it’s not related to the teams I care about. As an OSU fan, I care about every big ten team because they’re impacting my team even if they don’t play each other. Now, I would love to see deep analysis on other northern teams if it’s relevant to another big ten program. I would come to KOTN first for every Iowa/Iowa state game analysis and look forward to it. Teams like BCU and Kansas just don’t move the needle for me because I’m not seeing why I should care outside of a made up line dividing the country despite widely varying northern cultures. Keep up the great work and love the pod.
  • VickiZ531
    Great listen.
    Knowledgeable guys talking college football. Fun, good natured conversation about midwestern/northern teams. Easy to listen to.
  • imperial boobah
    Great listen
    Interesting and these guys do their homework,I’m hooked as a RU fan “in the north”
  • Sculer02
    OSU Fan Masquerade
    I really have tried to give this show a good effort. I have been listening since it started just can’t get past the fact they are Ohio State fans, masquerading as fans of Northern college football. They definitely know a lot about football, but you might as well just go listen to another Slappy Ohio State podcast, there are hundreds of them.
  • MJan30301212
    Superficial or Lazy or Both
    Hard to trust you about other teams if you really think Notre Dame fans wish Brian Kelly was back. I think it’s less than 1 percent of the fan base. If that’s a gauge of the accuracy your knowledge of other “northern” teams—-most of which are far more obscure than Notre Dame—than I’m not sure what the point of listening to the show is. Clearly it’s as superficial as it comes
  • FMB2222
    Here for Kings of the Notth and Kings of Columbus!
    I love listening to Doug and Bill. You can tell their chemistry is built on genuine friendship. Doug has such unique spins and both work incredibly hard.
  • Danny McQuaide
    Here for Doug and Bill
    I was SO sad when I heard Doug was leaving Buckeyetalk, I felt like I was losing a part of day. When I found out Doug was jumping to THE Podcast, I was ecstatic. Doug and Bill are FANTASTIC together. To be honest, the idea of KOTN is interesting, but I’d enjoy even more a full view of college football. I know, I know, the south can cram it, but I just enjoy listening to these two, and would love an even more national view on college football, especially with the expanded playoff. So in short, the south can cram it, but I want to hear about what’s going on there more so I can more roundly and fully appreciate cramming it.
  • jrmiletti
    The premise is horrible
    I like Doug and Bill. Been a fan of then since the BAD podcast. But the premise of the show is so bad. Trying to listen to them stretch to talk up Cuse, Boston College or Maryland or Minnesota is comical. The majority of their audiences Ohio State fans as am I. As Ohio State fans we are not part of northern college football culture. Our fan base is far more of a “southern” fan base than it is a Northern fanbase. The North does not recruit hard they don’t invest in football and most of their fanbases don’t care. I think Doug cares more about Illinois football than any Illinois fan I’ve ever met. We’ve been carrying the North for 100 years. Listening to a college football show they just excludes the south is about the most boring thing I can possibly listen to. Even from two hosts that I actually like. I would love to listen to them do a college football show to a company King of Columbus. Just a regular college football show without some goofy twist that excludes 70% of the good football in the country. Maybe someday.
  • Defense Mike
    Great concept, great execution
    This show provides great context on the northern half of the sport at a time when college football feels increasingly polarized along those lines. And as a son of the north, I love the passion!
  • TheBuckeyeD
    I must say…
    I must say… living in SEC country and working in public parks as I do, nothing made me happier than listening to a podcast on full blast that is going in detail to let everyone know exactly why their beloved SEC teams are overrated! 😂😂
  • Kevin LP fan
    Go to pod for north football
    Do a good job of equally covering northern teams even though they also cover Ohio state more specifically on other podcasts. South can cram it carry on gentlemen
  • Ruff321
    Curious
    I love the show. Have followed Doug for years (in his previous lives) and have always thought him to be the most curious and insightful of all the reporters on the OSU beat. And it is a very good group of beat writers. Doug has now led me to know and listen to Bill Landis who is fantastic and makes a great counter to Doug’s sometimes crazy sidebars. This is a great show! It’s my believe that the media overvalues Southern talent. Anyone ever compare the number of players in the NFL raised in the south vs. the 60% that get rated in 247 Sports top 247. I wonder if the same % holds up. It seems like most of 247 focus is the southern camp circuit and 7on7. Northerners not as likely to get exposure.
  • TheJollyrancher6
    Great show
    Doug and Bill do a tremendous job covering all things northern football.
  • Revans50
    Much Needed For Northern College Football Fans
    Great show and sorely needed to offset all the noise about the SEC and southern football in general. A few thoughts: Virginia Tech is not a northern team nor is Louisville but Kansas and Kansas State absolutely belong in a podcast about northern football. Missouri is iffy.
  • Greggc74
    My #1 Podcast
    Philly Billy and French Vanilly add the best context, best stats, best format and perspective of all college Football coverage. The South can Cram It, and these guys can lead the way! GreggC74
  • 😎🤓💩😺
    Excellent Premise and Show
    Doug and Bill are incredibly educated in their profession of covering CFB. A show about Northern CFB is what this sport needs, because it’s soooo Southern driven. What a year for Northern CFB, and they educate the fans and listeners about the Boston College QB, or also make fun of Northern Nepotism. Great Show, Great Premise… and the South can Cram It!
  • O-H-I-O Go Bucks
    Minor tweak
    A B1G/Northern specific podcast has been needed for some time. Please include USC & UCLA in your podcast. I understand they literally are south on a map but they are in the B1G, it doesn’t make sense to me to leave them off the podcast.
  • AX-5
    Best of the Best!!!
    Doug & Bill are the very best when it comes to their coverage - analysis and contextualization of Ohio State football - and now this new venture of analyzing and contextualizing the broader topic of Northern Football - which is much needed - to contrast the constant hyperbole surrounding the SEC and southern football.
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